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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212298525" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212298525">(Oct 05 2020 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm leading a Rust training this week, so I won't be able to make it to the meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212562297" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212562297">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212562543" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212562543">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="2943">@T-infra</span> meeting!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212562566" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> kennytm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212562566">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212562834" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212562834">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, let's start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212562863" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212562863">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>first off we have a beta nomination: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/77407">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/77407</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212562978" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212562978">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>this backports some changes I'm making to build-manifest, that are needed for the new promote-release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563034" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563034">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="thumbs up" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="thumbs up">:thumbs_up:</span> from me on getting this rolled out, we have enough testing in nightly now that I'm fine with it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563134" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563134">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> await</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563136" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563136">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to add on the current topic?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563163">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok! let's move on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563206">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is the first meeting of the month, so let's go through the P-medium issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563240" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563240">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>wasm emscripten tests for std/alloc/core/etc not running <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/75633">#75633</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563295" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563295">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>this was claimed by <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="252217">@Khionu Sybiern</span>, but no update was posted since last month</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563371" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563371">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd wait to see if they made some progress on it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563407" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563407">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Cargotest enhancements <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/70659">#70659</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563458" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563458">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>this was claimed by <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="225192">@Nell Shamrell-Harrington</span>, but no update was posted either</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563474" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563474">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I know she's busy between jobs!)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563506" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563506">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>Run 32bit test suite on PR CI? <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69823">#69823</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563509">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563523" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563523">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>no news</p>



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<p>I don't know that I expect any either</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563583" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563583">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>we need a min version llvm update first I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563647" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563647">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="thumbs up" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="thumbs up">:thumbs_up:</span> can you leave a comment on the issue?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563668" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563668">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>also like with clippy there's some question of "is this right thing to do"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563676" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563676">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>will leave a comment</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563741" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563741">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563782" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563782">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Re-enable LLVM and debug assertions for slow builders <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59637">#59637</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563815" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563815">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>there is a PR up for it, but my understanding is that there are some builders that are failing those assertions: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/75199">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/75199</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563896" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563896">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah I think someone was investigating and maybe fixed it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563941" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563941">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/76859">#76859</a> is still open</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563973" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563973">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess we need to bug <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> about that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212563986" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212563986">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>we just did :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564101" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564101">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>no, they're not subscribed to this stream</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564118" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564118">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I pinged incr comp wg on the thread though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564162" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564162">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>that also works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564168">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok then!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564182" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564182">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's all for our nominated issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564248" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564248">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>the only item on our agenda is an update on the promote-release changes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564347" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564347">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I created a scheduled event on aws to do a dev nightly build each night, but today I discovered an issue with it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564357">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564503" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564503">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically, the current setup was that AWS EventBridge called a Lambda function which checked if a release needed to happen and, if so, started the actual release process</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564553" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564553">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>the Lambda was needed to avoid spinning up a VM every hour to try and do dev-static stable releases, which are in an hourly cron</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564645" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564645">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>unfortunately the delivery policy for async lambdas is "at least once", and both yesterday and today it happened that the lambda was called twice, resulting in two parallel release processes happening</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564761" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564761">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>the solution I reached today was to remove the lambda and have AWS EventBridge start the release process directly, but that means we should not have the dev-static stable release on cron so frequently</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564834" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564834">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>and my current proposal was to have it be manual (with <code>./start-release.py dev stable</code> from the simpleinfra repo)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564867" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564867">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>any thoughts?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564878">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am fine with that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564899">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>We could also deduplicate somehow, but seems hard.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212564958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212564958">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, I don't really want to manage that, it's just error-prone</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565028" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565028">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> await</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565030" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565030">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to add on the current topic?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565090" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565090">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok! I guess I can do the rest of the "what did I change for promote-release" :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565147" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565147">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>so, last friday I mistakenly started a production nightly build with the new release process, which broke stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565201" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565201">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>the breakage was not due to the new release process, but because we had two nightlies released the same day</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565285" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565285">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I posted a small postmortem on the issue: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustup/issues/2504#issuecomment-702749774">https://github.com/rust-lang/rustup/issues/2504#issuecomment-702749774</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565442">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>as a followup with that, I made a merged PR to the new release tooling that:</p>
<ul>
<li>fixes the underlying problem that caused issues with two nightlies released in a single day</li>
<li>adds a safeguard to prevent publishing multiple nightlies a day anyway, which can be explicitly disabled if we need to</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565487" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565487">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>there is an equivalent PR to the current release tooling in RCS, <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> is waiting for the stable release to happen before merging it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565506" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565506">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me is not aware of that, but it's probably true.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565523" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565523">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>aware of what?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565573" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565573">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, I recall it now, okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565627" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565627">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565667" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565667">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I'm also working on a local branch to move gpg signatures and checksum generation over to promote-release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565685" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565685">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>and... that's all on the updates</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565753" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565753">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>moving on another really small topic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565786" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565786">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="117568">@Aidan Hobson Sayers</span> and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="225192">@Nell Shamrell-Harrington</span> are missing checkboxes on the aarch64 tier 1 rfc <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2959#issuecomment-696632770">https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2959#issuecomment-696632770</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565841" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565841">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>and... that's all I got</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565849" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565849">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> end-meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565852" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565852">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to bring up?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if you're ready to end the meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07%20meeting/near/212565928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-10-07.20meeting.html#212565928">(Oct 07 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks everyone for attending then!</p>



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<p>\o</p>



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<p>\o</p>



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<p>\o</p>



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<p>\o</p>



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